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NY Times From 2012: Error and Fraud at Issue as Absentee Voting Rises
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(11-08-2020, 01:31 AM)wayniac Wrote: Wow, the fix is in. Just watching Kamala Harris say "All the votes are being counted". Even the ones from dead people.

From dead people. From dementia patients. From across county lines. From illegal aliens. You name it.

But the dodgy vote is just a minor part of this thing.

Never in my life have I seen a society so totally and completely propagandized in the last 4 years. It was just about every form of power broker in the USA out to get Trump out of office. The old media, social media, Hollywood, most cable channels, some in his own party and as we know now, the FBI, the CIA and some I don't know were all in on the fix. Even the damned post office. 

You think Trump is confrontational and a bit random? That happens when you're being gaslighted on all sides for years.

The bottom line: Trump wasn't supposed to be elected in the first place. He was the peoples choice and the TPTB hated him for it. They didn't want pesky democracy to get in the way of their game. My guess is that never again will you be able to vote for such an independent man. The window of opportunity has gone and from now on you will be presented with a choice of smooth insider candidates who know their place. People who have been put their by the Big Money and who have gone on bended knee to the people who really run the place.

So get back to work you lowly peasants - from now on American Royalty will decide who is the boss!
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(11-08-2020, 02:48 PM)aqua Wrote:
(11-08-2020, 01:31 AM)wayniac Wrote: Wow, the fix is in. Just watching Kamala Harris say "All the votes are being counted". Even the ones from dead people.

So far there is no proof of fraud, anywhere.   Just a desperate loser named Trump making wild claims.

I guess you don't understand the difference between evidence and proof.
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Michigan County Flips from Biden to Trump After ‘Glitch’ Fixed….12,000 Vote Swing in County With Only 17,000 Voters

This story is still developing, and new facts are regularly coming in.

It was a computer program glitch that got discovered, so they counted Antrim County ballots by hand. As it turns out the program switched 6,000 Trump voters to Biden. So, subtract 6,000 from Biden and add 6,000 to Trump. But, that’s not the really good part. Forty-seven counties in Michigan used exactly the same program.

How did this happen? I hope it was accidental. But either way, the software company has a lot to answer for. Antrim County isn’t the only county affected. In Oakland County, a Republican official who thought he lost, won his reelection when a glitch was discovered there as well. All 47 other counties must do whatever necessary to recheck their counts.


Michigan Republican Party chairwoman Laura Cox  said:


Quote:“If all this wasn’t enough, in Antrim County, ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans, causing a 6,000-vote swing against our candidates.” 
“The county clerk came forward and said, ‘tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the votes. Since then, we have now discovered that 47 counties use this same software in the same capacity.”

“Antrim County had to hand-count all of the ballots, and these counties that use this software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies.”

“The people of Michigan deserve a transparent and open process.”
If one small county has switched 6,000 votes, how many votes were switched in all 48? That is scary. It’s scary for the Democrats, too. After manufacturing as many votes as they have, can they manufacture enough to overcome the glitch? And do other states use the same software? That would be devastating to the election’s credibility.


And what if we find out the glitch wasn’t unintentional? At this point, I trust no one. There has been too much hanky panky. The Supreme Court will have some hard decisions to make because I assure you Michigan will not check on the other 47 counties on their own.
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(11-08-2020, 06:43 PM)andrew_o Wrote: Michigan County Flips from Biden to Trump After ‘Glitch’ Fixed….12,000 Vote Swing in County With Only 17,000 Voters

This story is still developing, and new facts are regularly coming in................
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and IF You noticed my comment earlier on this forum regarding my Nephews voting experience?
That was the SAME COUNTY, ANTRIM Co in Michigan.

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he and his wife both asked for an absentee ballot at the same time same way,
HE got a regular ballot in the mail and turned it in just fine,

SHE got an internet link to fill in and print out instead and when she went to turn it in the County Clerks office receptionist told her
"thanks, we'll have someone transfer this info to a real ballot for you".
they were wondering how trustworthy that kind of a system might be.
NOW we have an indicator of that.........
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Antrim County is a Republican strong hold.  Now they say it is a "human error" in a poorly run Republican County.election.  That would match what Dave wrote.



https://www.woodtv.com/news/elections/an...-software/

"GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) — As Republicans raise alarms about the software used in Antrim County, where votes ultimately had to be counted by hand, the West Michigan-based company that makes the software says the problem was human error.


In early returns, it initially looked like Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden had garnered more votes in Antrim County than Republican President Donald Trump. In a county that has long been a Republican stronghold, it was almost immediately apparent that something was wrong. The votes were recounted Wednesday and it was determined Trump did win in the county

It turns out the mistake was an isolated incident linked to human error. ''



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(11-09-2020, 02:59 PM)aqua Wrote: Antrim County is a Republican strong hold.  Now they say it is a "human error" in a poorly run Republican County.election.  That would match what Dave wrote.
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Which is the ONLY reason THIS "error" was caught.
(and that it was such a small county population wise)


changing many thousands of votes would never be questioned most other places,

But once Antrim County reported -
even tho it was only 6000 votes, (never been noticed in Big counties nor mixed party counties)
the County was SWAMPED with questions/complaints about how the hell a big majority be Democrat when always been Republican.
so they double checked,

not sure if any other counties did the same double check



while "how it's run" may have been a factor, it was not a large one in the way this incident  happened, main issues were STATE equipment/software (State is Democratic run here aqua).
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There is ample evidence.
(11-08-2020, 02:48 PM)aqua Wrote:
(11-08-2020, 01:31 AM)wayniac Wrote: Wow, the fix is in. Just watching Kamala Harris say "All the votes are being counted". Even the ones from dead people.

So far there is no proof of fraud, anywhere.   Just a desperate loser named Trump making wild claims.

There is ample evidence. You just refuse to look.
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In fact there is a queue of whistle blowers lining up to give evidence.
Probably is the post office employee who was given instructions from high up the chain of command.
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(11-09-2020, 03:27 PM)DaveGillie Wrote:
(11-09-2020, 02:59 PM)aqua Wrote: Antrim County is a Republican strong hold.  Now they say it is a "human error" in a poorly run Republican County.election.  That would match what Dave wrote.
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Which is the ONLY reason THIS "error" was caught.
(and that it was such a small county population wise)


changing many thousands of votes would never be questioned most other places,

But once Antrim County reported -
even tho it was only 6000 votes, (never been noticed in Big counties nor mixed party counties)
the County was SWAMPED with questions/complaints about how the hell a big majority be Democrat when always been Republican.
so they double checked,

not sure if any other counties did the same double check



while "how it's run" may have been a factor, it was not a large one in the way this incident  happened, main issues were STATE equipment/software (State is Democratic run here aqua).

Oh, Republicans are looking every where to manufacture something they can call "fraud".

The software worked.  A clerical error caused all of the excitement.  Why is it the government never seems to work when Republicans are in charge ?

But then, with 147 million votes, there could be other errors.  Perhaps every election count run
by Republicans should be double checked ? 

The election is over. It was no more fraudulent than most elections are in this country.....and it’s time to move on.

I don’t think Trumps court cases are going anywhere.

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