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The Pacific is becoming a dangerous place
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Defenseless (& gutless?) tiny New Zealand hiding just below that dangerous place,


Hoping against hope that somebody ELSE will come to their defense............




is that what it feels like down there Andrew??
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(07-22-2020, 03:16 PM)DaveGillie Wrote: Defenseless (& gutless?) tiny New Zealand hiding just below that dangerous place,


Hoping against hope that somebody ELSE will come to their defense............




is that what it feels like down there Andrew??

Absolutely correct. 

NZ is a military sponger: Effectively hiding behind Australia and I suppose the USA. It is embarrassing. The stupid bastards who run this country don't realize that it costs us in the long term: We get shut out of trade deals because we're not properly on the team.
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(07-22-2020, 08:12 PM)andrew_o Wrote:
(07-22-2020, 03:16 PM)DaveGillie Wrote: Defenseless (& gutless?) tiny New Zealand hiding just below that dangerous place,


Hoping against hope that somebody ELSE will come to their defense............




is that what it feels like down there Andrew??

Absolutely correct. 

NZ is a military sponger: Effectively hiding behind Australia and I suppose the USA. It is embarrassing. The stupid bastards who run this country don't realize that it costs us in the long term: We get shut out of trade deals because we're not properly on the team.

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I do get the feeling that if NZ were to do some simple, purely DEFENSIVE measures, in the future it could become as scary to attack as Switzerland.


Can't see the powers that be, letting them drop out of the world wide BULLY Alliances tho
nor the NZ citizens becoming smart enough to see the advantage
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We're a maritime nation so everything we do should have that in mind. A small population of < 5 million with limited resources what do do have is:

About 5000 well trained soldiers, including an SAS contingent. They have served with the US in all recent engagements
4 Orion maritime patrol planes - old
4 really old Hercules
New A109 helicopters
2 frigates with Harpoon missiles and seasprite ASW choppers
A multi role troop/helicopter carrier ship
A brand new fleet oiler/ supply ship
A bunch of fisheries patrol boats

On order:
Some Boeing long range maritime patrol planes that can launch cruise missiles

What we should also have:

Some close air support ground attack planes - many options - because our troops have zero cover and rely on our allies for it

Some armour. We bought the wrong vehicles: Canadian LAVs and they're useless.
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