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Media lying about second wave
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http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...cond-wave/
Monty Python: “There are a great many people in the country today, who through no fault of their own, are sane.”
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(06-30-2020, 11:03 AM)doubletroublejim Wrote: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...cond-wave/

Angel Angel  If I am not mistaken, Texas is currently in the first wave.

Some regional hospitals in Texas are filling up (Mattlock's neighborhood, I believe).  But Texas is a really large state.

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/23/...u-houston/

"Coronavirus patients crowd some Texas ICUs as Gov. Greg Abbott touts "abundant" hospital capacity

Regionally, some hospital officials are reporting that intensive care units are near or over capacity, and local leaders have warned that hospitals could get overwhelmed if the number of infections keeps climbing.

by Shannon Najmabadi and Sarah R. Champagne June 23, 2020

As the number of patients hospitalized with the coronavirus has reached record highs 12 days in a row, Gov. Greg Abbott and other health officials have stressed that the state has “abundant” capacity to care for them.


Statewide, there were 14,260 available hospital beds and nearly 1,500 intensive care unit beds as of Tuesday.

But regionally, some hospital officials are reporting that intensive care units — for seriously ill patients, like those on ventilators — are near or over capacity, and local leaders have warned that hospitals could get overwhelmed if the number of infections keeps climbing.

In the hard-hit Houston region, hospitals have begun moving coronavirus patients from crowded ICUs to other facilities. A local children’s hospital said this week it is admitting transfer patients, with and without the virus, to help other facilities manage their capacity....."
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(06-30-2020, 11:03 AM)doubletroublejim Wrote: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...cond-wave/

I said all along the US figures were inflated because of the financial incentive

Yes the media are lying

Google provide an interactive chart from a simple search here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+de...AHoECAEQAA

In fact deaths are rapidly falling toward zero. There is no 'second wave'
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(06-30-2020, 06:20 PM)andrew_o Wrote:
(06-30-2020, 11:03 AM)doubletroublejim Wrote: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives...cond-wave/

I said all along the US figures were inflated because of the financial incentive

Yes the media are lying

Google provide an interactive chart from a simple search here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+de...AHoECAEQAA

In fact deaths are rapidly falling toward zero. There is no 'second wave'

There are a number of quirks in the way the data is collected and tabulated.

But the USA death rate is higher than the previous 5 year average.

Cases today turn into deaths 2 to 6+ weeks down the road.  This virus takes it's sweet time killing people.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/m...ous-years/

"A comparison of the number of deaths from all causes in the U.S. during the first 17 weeks of 2020 reveals a higher mortality than for the same period in any of the previous five years. While the death count was comparable to previous years in the first two months of 2020, it increased rapidly in March and April. Comparisons of mortality are highly sensitive to how the data are gathered and presented, therefore any claims based on the data must always be presented in the appropriate context. Since its outbreak in the U.S., COVID-19 has claimed more lives than diabetes, suicide, or stroke. "


https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-05-m...death.html

"The coronavirus has now taken 300,000 lives globally, according to official figures. But depending on the way deaths are counted, the real human cost could be far greater.


The official figures include only those deaths attributed to coronavirus, but experts are increasingly looking at data comparing this year's death rates with previous years—regardless of the official cause.

This "excess deaths" metric raises the spectre of a much higher toll, as it includes fatalities indirectly related to the virus—for example, people suffering from other illnesses who could not access treatment because of the strain the pandemic has placed on hospitals.

Throughout the crisis, methods of data compilation have differed widely between nations, making direct comparisons difficult.

In Italy, between February 20 and March 31, 12,428 people were recorded as having died of the coronavirus. But in the same period, authorities noted 25,354 "excess deaths" compared with the average of the five previous years.

For the United States, the difference is even more striking: according to data for March, before the country was hit by the worst of the pandemic, the number of excess deaths reached 6,000—more than triple the official COVID-19 toll.

Even in Germany, widely considered by experts to have handled the outbreak better than other EU countries, 3,706 deaths more than the average were noted in March, even as the official virus toll was 2,218.

In France, by contrast, for the period from March 1 to April 27, the COVID-19 toll of 23,291 is very close to the total number—24,116—of additional deaths compared with 2019...."
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So 300,000 lives globally out of a population of 7.8 billion

= 0.0028% fatality rate

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Note lack of second wave

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#6
I was thinking last night, the Ron Paul article above is basically good hopeful news.  Every time something is posted that shows things really aren't that bad,  aqua is universally negative about these more positive posts.  It's not what he wants to hear.  I think deep down, or maybe not so deep, he actually wants the virus to be as bad as possible. It'would suit his desire to get rid of Trump, or something.  I don't really know what that something is that animates him, but it certainly is a curious study to me, worthwhile because so many apparently are like him.
Monty Python: “There are a great many people in the country today, who through no fault of their own, are sane.”
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#7
virus is now a political ideology
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(07-02-2020, 08:06 PM)andrew_o Wrote:



That's the spirit, Andy.

Put on a horned Viking helmet, and hop a fast plane to the USA.

You could attend Trump rallies everyday until November.

No masks.

Own the Libs.

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