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WHICH were Jobs destroyed????
#1
I can't find this chart again, I'll keep looking, but it showed a LONG term trend of the Labor Force in
1. Public sector jobs  and  2. Private sector jobs

while a lot of zig zags, public was gaining share slowly but surely,

UNTIL a couple months ago then

1. Public (ie Govt) sector jobs STILL GREW SLIGHTLY

while

2. Private sector jobs decreased by about 75% (by Govt decree)



I'll bet dollars to donuts that after the CoronoCrises, that Govt sector jobs still grow even more and Private sector ones will NOT recover too well.




JUST an observation and prediction, not a judgement call (here, yet).
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#2
We are having some grumbling here.

Schools closed, teachers stay home with full pay. Government offices closed, workers stay home with full pay. Businesses closed, workers stay home with unemployment if they are lucky, which tops out at about $18K annual rate (converted to US dollars), for a maximum of 20 weeks.
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#3
First time in decades my job has been at risk. A lot of our business is international and aircraft related, both of which is at a near stand still. My little 25 (now 19) employee company is bleeding almost $200K a month, and that doesn't count lost revenue from canceled or delayed contracts, and most of those contracts are related to bringing trainers up to new FAA standards.

However, the FAA hasn't let anyone go and sure isn't going to extend deadlines for bringing trainers up to new standards, even though the businesses like us doing that work are virtually paralyzed. That will leave a shortage of trainers for pilots to receive required training, thus creating a shortage of pilots and ultimately flights after things open back up someday. I haven't looked, but I bet TSA isn't laying anyone off either.
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#4
In NZ we moved the school holidays a week forward so up until this week the kids haven't really lost much school time. However schools are due open this week, so there is a scramble to find a solution.

As for politicians, our taxpayers association has pressured senior civil servants and cabinet ministers to take a 20% haircut.
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#5
here it is

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#6
Our public broadcaster hasn't lost a single job. Lots of them working from home, proving that you don't need huge CBD office/studios that cost millions to service. With a budget of 2 Billion they act like they are responsible and unbiased. Every single day they have Trump bashers on TV and radio.

One of the stay at home journalists was today saying how they built a fire pit in the back yard and have been enjoying it. I hope that the other 4+ million residents don't think it's OK to light fires in their back yard. This is the same ABC that complain about pollution and climate change. They are not paid to think rationally.
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#7
(04-16-2020, 08:19 AM)wayniac Wrote: Our public broadcaster hasn't lost a single job. Lots of them working from home, proving that you don't need huge CBD office/studios that cost millions to service. .................

We did a threat on "dematerializing" on this forum not too long ago,
seems that trend will be coming faster than ever.

Quote:wayniac
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With a budget of 2 Billion they act like they are responsible and unbiased. Every single day they have Trump bashers on TV and radio.
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SAME with USA "Public" radio.
something weird with Government always being so fanatical and anti Freedom Pro Socialist

Quote:wayniac
One of the stay at home journalists was today saying how they built a fire pit in the back yard and have been enjoying it. I hope that the other 4+ million residents don't think it's OK to light fires in their back yard. This is the same ABC that complain about pollution and climate change. They are not paid to think rationally.


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even WEIRDER how these Liberal types and Government types are always so "but not me" with their rules!!
My States most common social media complaint, is photo/video of our Governor announcing a thousand dollar fine for being in groups over ONE that's not family (from the middle of a GROUP of 11 people, non wearing masks).

AND tons of posts of State employees cutting grass all over the state (she outlawed cutting grass other than the home you life in)
AS several of my friends posts Violation notices for not cutting grass at their rental homes!!!!
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#8
(04-16-2020, 08:19 AM)wayniac Wrote: Our public broadcaster hasn't lost a single job. Lots of them working from home, proving that you don't need huge CBD office/studios that cost millions to service. With a budget of 2 Billion they act like they are responsible and unbiased. Every single day they have Trump bashers on TV and radio.

One of the stay at home journalists was today saying how they built a fire pit in the back yard and have been enjoying it. I hope that the other 4+ million residents don't think it's OK to light fires in their back yard. This is the same ABC that complain about pollution and climate change. They are not paid to think rationally.

It seems a common theme with state broadcasters. Your ABC is dreadfully biased when it comes to politics. Thank goodness for Sky Australia which adds some balance. I watch their Sky news and commentary every night because it's on point and it's amusing.

Our local media is nothing short of pathetic. We don't have a big state broadcaster because it was broken up some time ago but what we have is both weak and left. The nearest thing to a state broadcaster is RNZ - Radio New Zealand - which is typically well left of centre and populated by 'luvvies'. It's also a union shop, so go figure.

The local media here are wailing about the consequences of the lock down: The advertising revenue is migrating to online platforms and they fear it will stay there once the virus is past. They're probably right - the virus is the final straw. 

I can't say I care - I have long held the belief that most in media have the intellectual capacity and moral standards of cockroaches.
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#9
I have been AWOL from the forum for a while, but I'm still kicking. The past several weeks have been a lot to process.
We went out on the last weekend of February and bought several hundred dollars' worth of food and other stay-at-home essentials (detergent, etc.) so have been in relatively good shape (although I did not foresee the run on toilet paper).
Working from home has been going ok so far. The small company I work for has some government contracts which will help see us through for some months, but of course the private contracts are all suspended. When the Great Recession hit, they cut everyone's hours (and pay) by 20%, so my guess is that that will come again soon, once it becomes obvious that things aren't going to be all better by May as our leaders promised us. I'm fortunate to be in a position where I can sit at home and worry about possibly being hit by a 20% paycut next month, while so many have zero reserves and lost their jobs overnight.
My mom still lives out in the country in the house where I grew up, so has been feeling very isolated. She's not really much of an internet user but we've been doing regular phone calls and are thinking of going up on a nice day to visit outside so we can keep our distance.
I hope everyone is staying physically and mentally well!
Guns don't kill people, the government does.
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#10
Hi Herring! Good to see you're still around.
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