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Wuhan Coronavirus - anyone concerned??
(02-13-2020, 04:56 PM)doubletroublejim Wrote: Listening to war room again.  People this is no joke.  I think it's going to hit the whole world hard.  The credentialed people on this show are not optimistic.  Watch the show yourself.  The big news from today, scientist who has studied the virus says it is very peculiar  and may indeed be bioengineered.  He's not 100 % sure, but is suspicious.

what "war room" are you listening to?
I can't find anything but a definition or an unrelated movie when I google that term.

Considering it started before December 2019 in a city known for international travel, and has spread thru China like wildfire,
have they given any hint of why it's not YET have any big local contagion spreads outside of China yet?

to ME, it still seems baffling (and mainly ignored)


Steve Bannon's show out of his basement. Go to navigation then to pandemic, or watch on Newsmax at 11:00. Political show at 10 is excellent too. On radio too.
Monty Python: “There are a great many people in the country today, who through no fault of their own, are sane.”
Like I say, the economic lock is already there, it's only a matter of time before it domino's right in over here and everywhere else.

It's really kinda a big Karmic fuck you stupid humans when you think about it. or;

This is what you get when you allow a bucha evil corporations to treat men, women and children like slaves , with no protections from any chemicals or hazards, to literally turn them into a plastic lawn chair that cost 3 dollars, that's their value, and to then consolidate all manufacturer in this one region , so you can take advantage of the slavery and 0 environmental protections.
To which this then directly translates to the Chinese business's that will in essence do the bidding of the evil western corporations thus selling out there own countrymen, using them like stepping stones

and so in the end the virus will say, fuck you , kill em all,let god sort em out. If you do not die, you will suffer somehow

TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — It’s possible to get infected by the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) a second time, according to doctors on the frontline in China’s city of Wuhan, leading to death from heart failure in some cases.
The claim is made by doctors working in the Hubei Province capital that is at the center of the epidemic, which has to date infected 64,201 people and killed 1,487. One of the doctors reached out to a relative living in the United Kingdom, who then informed Taiwan News.
Both the relative and doctors asked to remain anonymous, out of consideration they might face retribution from the Chinese authorities. The doctor, Li Wenliang (李文亮), who first raised warnings about the Wuhan virus, was rebuked by the authorities before succumbing to the devastating disease himself earlier this month.
According to the message forwarded to Taiwan News, “It’s highly possible to get infected a second time. A few people recovered from the first time by their own immune system, but the meds they use are damaging their heart tissue, and when they get it the second time, the antibody doesn’t help but makes it worse, and they die a sudden death from heart failure.”
The source also said the virus has “outsmarted all of us,” as it can hide symptoms for up to 24 days. This assertion has been made independently elsewhere, with Chinese pulmonologist Zhong Nanshan (鍾南山) saying the average incubation period is three days, but it can take as little as one day and up to 24 days to develop symptoms.
Also, the source said that false negative tests for the virus are fairly common. “It can fool the test kit – there were cases that they found, the CT scan shows both lungs are fully infected but the test came back negative four times. The fifth test came back positive.”
According to the BBC and other media outlets, some laboratory tests are incorrectly telling people they are virus-free. There is also anecdotal evidence of people having up to six negative results before being diagnosed correctly.
Dr. Li Wenliang first raised concerns about this. His own test results had come back negative multiple times before he was finally diagnosed.
False negative tests raise question marks over how many people have the Wuhan coronavirus, with many believing the Chinese authorities have massively underreported the number of cases and deaths. Meanwhile, the official methodology for diagnosing the virus in China was changed this week, leading to a sudden leap in the number of recorded cases and deaths.
(01-30-2020, 08:29 PM)andrew_o Wrote: water can irritate the lungs

Yes, I keep hearing people say that face masks are worse than useless when they get wet.

So I wouldn't put anything on them.

(Personally I think I would only bother with a face mask if I was actually infectious, or if there was a possibility that I could be, so as to help prevent giving it to somebody else. Or if the law said we have to.)
Dean Koontz in his 1981 novel wrote about a virus strain called Wuhan 400?
Two people on the ship in Yokohama have now died. Both in their 80's.

We did a cruise last year from Melbourne to Yokohama on the Queen Elizabeth.

Definitely our first and last cruise. At the time I joked that with the demographic of the passengers, at least 1 or 2 would die en-route.

I'm pretty sure that happened, because if you take 2,000 people on a ship for 3 weeks aged between 40 and 80+, the odds are good that someone will die from "natural causes".

As it happens some friends we went with went down with a virus and spent time in the hospital sick bay.

Take if from me, there are better things to do in your leisure time than "cruisin' "
"At the time I joked that with the demographic of the passengers, at least 1 or 2 would die en-route."

In my one experience with cruise ships, I expected several would die of alcohol poisoning alone, or maybe just pass out and fall over the side. Never seen anything like it before or since, total nightmare.

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