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IMPEACH!!!!!!
#1
Yeah OK

But none of those proposing impeachment seem able specify what “high crime” the President has committed.
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#2
He exposed and embarrassed the establishment.

Too bad he lost interest in ending wars. Probably realized that would be the only sure way to get impeached or assassinated.
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#3
(05-31-2019, 06:43 PM)andrew_o Wrote: Yeah OK

But none of those proposing impeachment seem able specify what “high crime” the President has committed.

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(05-31-2019, 06:43 PM)andrew_o Wrote: Yeah OK

But none of those proposing impeachment seem able specify what “high crime” the President has committed.
Besides being unfit for the office ? ?

Obstructing investigations, ignoring the rule of law, are probably the easiest convictions to get.

But others are more elegant than I on the subject.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc...mp/580468/


"On January 20, 2017, Donald Trump stood on the steps of the Capitol, raised his right hand, and solemnly swore to faithfully execute the office of president of the United States and, to the best of his ability, to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States. He has not kept that promise.


Instead, he has mounted a concerted challenge to the separation of powers, to the rule of law, and to the civil liberties enshrined in our founding documents. He has purposefully inflamed America’s divisions. He has set himself against the American idea, the principle that all of us—of every race, gender, and creed—are created equal.

This is not a partisan judgment. Many of the president’s fiercest critics have emerged from within his own party. Even officials and observers who support his policies are appalled by his pronouncements, and those who have the most firsthand experience of governance are also the most alarmed by how Trump is governing....


Trump has evinced little respect for the rule of law, attempting to have the Department of Justice launch criminal probes into his critics and political adversaries. He has repeatedly attacked both Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and Special Counsel Robert Mueller. His efforts to mislead, impede, and shut down Mueller’s investigation have now led the special counsel to consider whether the president obstructed justice.


As for the liberties guaranteed by the Constitution, Trump has repeatedly trampled upon them. He pledged to ban entry to the United States on the basis of religion, and did his best to follow through. He has attacked the press as the “enemy of the people” and barred critical outlets and reporters from attending his events. He has assailed black protesters. He has called for his critics in private industry to be fired from their jobs. He has falsely alleged that America’s electoral system is subject to massive fraud, impugning election results with which he disagrees as irredeemably tainted. Elected officials of both parties have repeatedly condemned such statements, which has only spurred the president to repeat them.

These actions are, in sum, an attack on the very foundations of America’s constitutional democracy."

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#5
Being “unfit for office “ isn’t a crime

and no obstruction of justice was found.

So I repeat: what are their grounds for impeachment?

Seems to me this is just Democrat candidates singing to the choir.
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(06-05-2019, 09:45 AM)andrew_o Wrote: Being “unfit for office “ isn’t a crime

and no obstruction of justice was found.

So I repeat: what are their grounds for impeachment?

Seems to me this is just Democrat candidates singing to the choir.

Wrong again.  If you want to count the number of ways Trump obstructed justice, jump right in.



http://time.com/5573521/donald-trump-obstruction-justice/



Here Are All the Ways Trump May Have Obstructed Justice


"In an almost 400-page report sent to Congress Thursday, the former FBI director said that

he had decided against accusing Trump of obstructing justice because the President would
not have the ability to defend himself in a trial.

At the same time, he said if he could declare Trump innocent of wrongdoing, he would do so..."
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#7
This may be what Pelosi's game is ?

If you read between the lines, you would notice that things are going as expected by Pelosi, and the process is deliberate.
  • Keep the impeachment issue vague.

  • Allow Dems to keep going on national media to answer questions about impeachment (that puts the issue on the front page forever).

  • Keep talking about the known criminal conducts of Donald Trump every time.

  • Continue to probe his other crimes that are not yet revealed.

  • Continue to subpoena documents and individuals through the courts for Trump’s criminal investigations (don’t call it impeachment hearings).

  • From now till the 2020 election, continue to paint Trump as a criminal in the White House.

  • Let Trump respond by tweeting “I am not a criminal...” to that effect.

If Trump is impeached, the Republican Senate would most likely acquit him and he would claim victory from now till the 2020 election. 
With the process outlined above, Trump is never given any opportunity to claim victory. He would forever remain a criminal defendant in the eyes of the public.
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