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Syria gas attack, diabolical, false flag, or both?
#11
WHICH title should be used?


1.  Quick, DESTROY THE EVIDENCE?

2.  OR "brag the missiles are ""smart"' -"
JUST before you have to explain why they "accidentally" took out Russian targets??

(note: today is 4-11-18 at 8:45am)


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...a1c26fb266
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#12
Yes, Aqua, and you can thank your Democrat friends, their alliance with the deep state and Neo Cons for all of it.
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Aqua wrote:
I am 100% certain the one who put him into that job is a Republican.

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Jeez, Aqua. I didn't think of that. You are a man of deep insight, and all along I thought you mostly a mindless troll ruining people's threads with inane graffiti.

(04-10-2018, 02:49 PM)StingingNettle Wrote:
(04-10-2018, 06:33 AM)andrew_o Wrote: When the Red Cross say it's a thing, it's a thing.

Yes it happened.  BUT WHO.

Watch Tucker  here: http://taoeconomics.com/deepstate-pushin...-in-syria/



Nettle, The video you posted was taken right after Trump also responded to the FBI raid of his lawyer by Meuller's gang.  Pretty deflating for Trump I'm sure.  I wonder if the raid and the Syrian thing are tangentially related.   This bunch has been after Trump since the beginning, and they've gotten to him somehow.  I think the stakes are higher than his own life.  Maybe the threat of destruction of his business's and family are enough to keep him somewhat in line.  Or maybe he is just not that perceptive, and surrounds himself with Neo Con warmongers even after getting elected saying how stupid they were and what a disaster American foreign policy has been.  I think the deep state put the screws on Obama too.  I don't know what the leverage is, but the changes witnessed once these guys get in office is frightening.  I still support Trump because he is not dependable for the deep state, still often works against them, and drives them crazy. That being said, I think they have him by the short hairs somehow.
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#13
(04-11-2018, 01:03 PM)doubletroublejim Wrote: Yes, Aqua, and you can thank your Democrat friends, their alliance with the deep state and Neo Cons for all of it.
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Aqua wrote:
I am 100% certain the one who put him into that job is a Republican.

________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Jeez, Aqua. I didn't think of that. You are a man of deep insight, and all along I thought you mostly a mindless troll ruining people's threads with inane graffiti.

If you knew you were wrong from the git-go, why even post it ? ? ?[Image: latest?cb=20141023202248]
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#14
(04-10-2018, 09:11 PM)DaveGillie Wrote:
(04-10-2018, 06:33 AM)andrew_o Wrote: When the Red Cross say it's a thing, it's a thing.

The Red Cross said it was GAS,

it did NOT SAY WHO did it


for you to insinuate OTHERWISE is your constant style of fraud

You have two options:

The Syrians
The Russians

Unless you have any other plausible candidates?
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#15
(04-11-2018, 09:53 PM)aqua Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 01:03 PM)doubletroublejim Wrote: Yes, Aqua, and you can thank your Democrat friends, their alliance with the deep state and Neo Cons for all of it.
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Aqua wrote:
I am 100% certain the one who put him into that job is a Republican.

________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Jeez, Aqua. I didn't think of that. You are a man of deep insight, and all along I thought you mostly a mindless troll ruining people's threads with inane graffiti.

If you knew you were wrong from the git-go, why even post it ? ? ?[Image: latest?cb=20141023202248]

I wasn't wrong Aqua.  It's obvious Bolton was appointed by Trump.  That's not the point.  The "Russia collusion" crap has precluded any normalization of relations with Russia and has now led us close to war.  In a previous thread you mentioned nobody was talking about war with Russia.  That position you regard as so last week I guess. 
For those interested, look at the  "U.S. being supplanted as economic driver" thread.

(04-12-2018, 05:29 AM)andrew_o Wrote:
(04-10-2018, 09:11 PM)DaveGillie Wrote:
(04-10-2018, 06:33 AM)andrew_o Wrote: When the Red Cross say it's a thing, it's a thing.

The Red Cross said it was GAS,

it did NOT SAY WHO did it


for you to insinuate OTHERWISE is your constant style of fraud

You have two options:

The Syrians
The Russians

Unless you have any other plausible candidates?

The Rebels themselves.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201...sads-regi/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w...iVRU2xyBo2
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#16
It seems so blatantly obvious that everything David Icke has said about the globalist plans to foment war in countries in the middle east is true. He seems to be saying it isn't only about control of the oil pipelines, that there is some sort of spiritual dimension to these ancient holy lands.

I couldn't believe it reading in the newspapers yesterday that the UK was thinking of agreeing to massive war with Syria and Russia.

This is like Iraq and Tony Blair's lies about weapons of mass destruction all over again, just substituted "Assad killing his own people" and "Syria" for "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction" and "Iraq".

The demand for war this time seems to be coming from the globalists both left and right wing, with the sickening fake humanitarian concern getting repeated, as the false flag attacks by the NWO are who is harming the Syrian people, not Assad.

The vast majority of the British people do not want a war with Assad or Russia, are completely aware of the charade, and feel aggrieved that they have no power to stop this war and that the powers that be will just do what they want anyway. British people from all political opinion, both Daily Mail readers and Guardian readers when they get the chance to comment are adamantly against this war and totally aware of the scam.

We don't need a war with Russia.
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#17
(04-11-2018, 01:03 PM)doubletroublejim Wrote: Yes, Aqua, and you can thank your Democrat friends, their alliance with the deep state and Neo Cons for all of it.
________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Aqua wrote:
I am 100% certain the one who put him into that job is a Republican.

________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Jeez, Aqua. I didn't think of that. You are a man of deep insight, and all along I thought you mostly a mindless troll ruining people's threads with inane graffiti.

(04-10-2018, 02:49 PM)StingingNettle Wrote:
(04-10-2018, 06:33 AM)andrew_o Wrote: When the Red Cross say it's a thing, it's a thing.

Yes it happened.  BUT WHO.

Watch Tucker  here: http://taoeconomics.com/deepstate-pushin...-in-syria/



Nettle, The video you posted was taken right after Trump also responded to the FBI raid of his lawyer by Meuller's gang.  Pretty deflating for Trump I'm sure.  I wonder if the raid and the Syrian thing are tangentially related.   This bunch has been after Trump since the beginning, and they've gotten to him somehow.  I think the stakes are higher than his own life.  Maybe the threat of destruction of his business's and family are enough to keep him somewhat in line.  Or maybe he is just not that perceptive, and surrounds himself with Neo Con warmongers even after getting elected saying how stupid they were and what a disaster American foreign policy has been.  I think the deep state put the screws on Obama too.  I don't know what the leverage is, but the changes witnessed once these guys get in office is frightening.  I still support Trump because he is not dependable for the deep state, still often works against them, and drives them crazy. That being said, I think they have him by the short hairs somehow.

That really wouldn't surprise me. They are doing everything possible to get information on all Trump private matters right from the get go, and the process has all been extremely questionable at best. (FISA court order off of opposition research)

They NEED something to control him. An astute observation. If there is something damaging to him in anything they have collected then the deepstate has him.
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(04-12-2018, 02:46 PM)Osilverfish Wrote: It seems so blatantly obvious that everything David Icke has said about the globalist plans to foment war in countries in the middle east is true.  He seems to be saying it isn't only about control of the oil pipelines, that there is some sort of spiritual dimension to these ancient holy lands.

I couldn't believe it reading in the newspapers yesterday that the UK was thinking of agreeing to massive war with Syria and Russia.

This is like Iraq and Tony Blair's lies about weapons of mass destruction all over again, just substituted "Assad killing his own people" and "Syria" for "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction" and "Iraq".

The demand for war this time seems to be coming from the globalists both left and right wing, with the sickening fake humanitarian concern getting repeated, as the false flag attacks by the NWO are who is harming the Syrian people, not Assad.

The vast majority of the British people do not want a war with Assad or Russia, are completely aware of the charade, and feel aggrieved that they have no power to stop this war and that the powers that be will just do what they want anyway.  British people from all political opinion, both Daily Mail readers and Guardian readers when they get the chance to comment are adamantly against this war and totally aware of the scam.

We don't need a war with Russia.

Short-term, your present Prime Minister is simply chiseling away for a slightly longer tenure.  She does lots of little things that extend her premiership by maybe two weeks at a time.

Longer-term, the southern part of your island is hopeless.  Too many niggers, too many muzzies, not enough white babies (and the ones you do have go totally uneducated).  Hopeless.

oly
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(04-12-2018, 04:08 PM)oly2059 Wrote: Short-term, your present Prime Minister is simply chiseling away for a slightly longer tenure.  She does lots of little things that extend her premiership by maybe two weeks at a time.

oly

My gut feeling and observations say that Theresa May, our Prime Minister, is quite good as politicians go.  As a politician she is under pressure from the globalist NWO powers that be, but she is intelligent and a good person, she isn't Tony Blair.  She must realise this warmongering with Syria and Russia is a scam, and it must hurt her to not try in some way to oppose it.  She also will be aware how angry the majority of British people are with making war, even Daily Mail readers are ready to vote for Jeremy Corbyn just on this policy alone.  One statistic I read, that I think is an overestimate, says that 22% of the British public support war with Syria.  The Iraq war opened people's eyes and Tony Blair is the most hated politician ever.

Theresa May might only have a little power to scupper what the NWO want to do, but I wouldn't be surprised if she uses what power she does have, and her considerable intelligence, to not cooperate with this war mongering.  Her weak point is that she likes to be liked, and tends to respond to public feeling.  That could work in favour of stopping this war.  Daily Mail readers are spitting feathers about it.

Maybe Theresa May will try some diplomacy with President Putin and/or President Assad, using that to stall for time in not initiating war?
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#20
Luongo: "The Coup Is Complete - Trump Is Done"

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-1...trump-done 

"I’m going to keep this simple.  Follow the dots and try to keep up.

1. The Deep State’s lies are being unraveled in real time thanks to the collective intelligence of the ‘internet’ and our ability to synthesize data in real time.

2. The Skripal poisoning and the latest Syrian “chemical weapons” attack share the same thing — both set government officials off rushing to judgment and action before any official investigation could debunk them.

3. Trump has pissed off everyone in power on both sides of the Atlantic since coming into power.

4. He has been a material threat to powerful members of the Deep State/Shadow Government who have unmasked themselves as criminals to avoid losing power.

5. Trump needs to be neutralized.  And up to this point he hasn’t been, c.f. his tax cuts, deregulation, Executive Orders against Obamacare, TPP, TTIP.

He’s attacking the current managed trade schema of Wall St. and the City of London via trade war rhetoric with China and the EU.

Russia collusion narrative has failed completely.  Mueller’s investigation has now ‘jumped the shark.’

6. Things were falling into place for Trump, Jinping and Putin for a wider peace framework from North Korea to the Middle East.  This does not serve the entrenched powers in D.C., New York, City of London, Riyadh and Beirut.

7. The operation to destroy Syria is at least a 20 year old idea.  It will not be derailed.   It goes back to overthrowing Assad’s father.

John Bolton is one of the architects of this mess.
8. Trump’s tweets right after the latest announced attack rang false.  The word choice was all wrong.  Tone right.  Words wrong.

9. This morning’s tweets.  The same way.  “Gas killing Animal?”  Who’s writing his material now?  A third-grader?

10. These tweets will be used as ‘evidence’ against Trump in his upcoming either resignation or removal from office.

11. They have to in order to countermand his historical public record against intervention in Syria as well as his publicly-stated intentions to pull out of Syria ‘real soon.’

12. Trump would not telegraph his military posturing like this, c.f. Al-Shairat, MOAB.  He’s made that point abundantly clear.

13. These tweets and past events will make a case for him not being fit for office.

14. After the U.S. and the coalition Obama and David Cameron could not put together in 2013 commits serious war crimes in Syria and the reality in Douma is revealed, i.e. no chemical weapons were even used, Trump will be blamed for rushing to judgment.

15. He is Commander-in-Chief.  His military handlers will turn on him in a heartbeat and all of this will be used as ‘proof’ of his insanity.

16. The headlines are preparing us for this.  The GOP is split on him at this point, some openly wishing for him to fail.  This

17. At the announcement of response in Syria Trump looked defeated.  He doesn’t look like himself.   He’s done.

18. The reality is that he’s not making these decisions.  These decisions were made for him and, like every other President, he’s trapped having to sell it.

19. If he resists, his family dies.  His businesses destroyed.  Or he can go along, do what he can and after four years leave the office in disgrace.

20. And he will be blamed for it all.

I told you months ago, when you make a deal with the devil, in this case the Neoconservatives, you do so at your own peril.  When Trump reversed course on Afghanistan the fix was in then.  He would be allowed, like all presidents, to play around at the edges of domestic policy, but the foreign policy train will not be derailed.

That’s what fuels the Empire.  That’s the game.  And the events of the past four days tell you what’s what.

It’s like a nightmare rose up slouching towards Bethlehem
Like a nightmare rose up from this small strip of land
Slouching towards Bethlehem

–Marillion"
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